It’s GO Time – Kontakt / OAX Integration

Over the past couple of weeks we have been having a great discussion with everyone regarding the “factory” OAX sounds and the possibility to add to those sounds using the “VSTHost” that is part of OAX. If you missed some of those discussions you can go back and review / catch-up by searching on the category “VST”… Or simply click here.

As we have mentioned more than once, we find “visual” easier to follow vs. pure text based “how-to” posts. So, we are starting off with a short video on how we got to this point. Over the next couple of weeks we will be adding videos to help you add a VST to your OAX instrument. As always, we welcome your comments and feedback.

Let’s start off with a simple recap of where we are at this point:

8 thoughts on “It’s GO Time – Kontakt / OAX Integration

    • 08/14/2017 at 09:36
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      Aha! And here’s what I replied back on their page — Nice – Very anxious to get my hands on a copy!

      Going to put a short video up later today showing overall system performance on the Sonic yesterday when we played a few bars using the e-piano sample that’s part of the “Band” module. The Sonic didn’t blink. Now, having said that we do have Session Horns Pro and we just downloaded “The Hammersmith” which is a sample of a Steinway Grand. Those are both running on a PC not connected to the Sonic. Those samples are much larger. It will get interesting to see those run on the Sonic. I will get those on the Sonic but thinking I’ll hold off until after I bump up the memory and get a second SSD installed.

      Are we having fun yet? 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  • 08/13/2017 at 18:29
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    I loaded Kontakt 16 out onto my OAX-1. Had a problem using 16 out. I connected the outputs, no problem. I hit the edit button and the Kontakt window popped up. I loaded a sound. Went to the main screen and loaded the sound into upper manual 1. All is well. Went back to vst and hit the edit button. Kontakt screen would not open. Had to delete the vst and reload to get Kontakt screen to open. I then loaded Knotakt 8 out and have no problem with it.
    I sampled some Wersi sounds from my Abacus and loaded into Kontakt on my OAX-1. Fantastic….Will solve my problem stacking sounds that I need. Now if Wersi would just fix my broken OAX-1, I will be a happy camper.

    Jerry

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    • 08/14/2017 at 07:12
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      Very Nice… Actually I’ve run into the same problem you mentioned regarding re-loading a VST. That has happened with all of them I’ve tried not just Kontakt.

      It’s a little early to call it “fixed” but I’ve found that if I use the “X” in the upper right of the VST to close it vs. using the “Back” button that I’m able to left click the VST and then hit Edit to open it back up. Give it a try and see if you can verify that helps or not?

      Neat idea regarding using some of your own samples!

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  • 08/12/2017 at 12:09
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    Hi Curt, Chris,

    I think I understand where Chris is coming from. As I suggested in my previous post, the most efficient way of handling MIDI channel allocations for Kontakt sounds, whether externally or internally, is to have just one Program Change Number for each Kontakt sound, and then use the OAX dynamic MIDI channel allocation to assign the MIDI channels. So if we’re using Kontakt externally then set the SYS option for the external sound to allow the OAX to dynamically allocate channel numbers, if we’re using Kontakt internally then this happens automatically.

    Now we need 16 copies of the Instrument Bank in the Kontakt multi, all with identical contents but each one set to a different MIDI channel number. Now when we place one or more Kontakt sounds on the manuals and pedals, whatever MIDI channels the OAX has allocated, there will be corresponding Instrument Banks in the Kontakt multi, and the Program Change Numbers will access the appropriate entries. So for example, if the OAX allocates MIDI channel 6 for a Kontakt sound that we’ve placed on the upper manual with a Program Change Number 25, we will access Instrument Bank 6 and entry 25, in which we will have previously placed a particular instrument corresponding to Program Change Number 25.

    See if this works, guys.

    Jeff

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    • 08/12/2017 at 12:47
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      Jeff – You are correct. Exactly how it works and has been tested although I didn’t do all 16 channels. I did three which was enough to see what was happening.

      Where Chris lost me was with the comment “hard coding 75 user sound presets” – I read that as 75 presets in OAX. Slightly different than setting up 16 instruments banks in Kontakt (1 per MIDI channel).

      In any event in the coming days I’ll upload a working example for us to review and discuss. Next I plan show a very simple manual mapping to show how we build from that up to what you have described.

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  • 08/12/2017 at 06:54
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    Hi Curt
    Great to see the progress you are making. After reviewing the articles from you and Jeff I was able to setup multiple channels between Kontakt and the Sonic, but in the case of Albion One there are 25 different instrument samples so do do just 3 instruments on one manual means hard coding 75 user sound presets (not very efficient).
    Also as soon as I done this and then played using more than a single note melody Kontakt was indicating 100% disk usage, which proves the point that if you do run on an external PC it really does need to be very highly spec’. Therefore will be very interested to see how well the Sonic can deal with the processing. If it does cope ok then my thoughts would be to copy my sample libraries from the PC on to an external USB 3 SSD and plug in the back of the Sonic. Seems a much more cost efficient solution at present.
    Looking forward to the next instalment.
    Chris

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    • 08/12/2017 at 08:58
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      Hey Chris,

      Not 100% sure I follow your sound / preset comment. I will be showing how to setup a couple of instrument banks in Kontakt and how I’m able to use / connect those from the OAX Touch Screen as individual instruments or put them in a preset. At this point I’ve been doing one sound on “Upper1” and another one on “Lower1” but easy enough add “Upper2” into the mix to see what we all learn from that exercise.

      Would love to hear some of the Albion sounds and how you are using them. Practice up a tune or two and send us a recording to host on the site… Guess I should do the same!

      Actually, the music in the background of the video is from the “Band” section of the Kontakt Factory Selection module.

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