OAX MIDI Basics – Part II

Let’s take a closer look at how you can create your own user sound and assign the MIDI Channel and MIDI port information to that sound. Depenind on the external MIDI device(s) you are connecting to will change how you implmemnt the settings on the OAX side.

15 thoughts on “OAX MIDI Basics – Part II

  • 01/23/2019 at 05:24
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    Midi and VST have the same features on OAX, as they both follow the standard midi protocol. (Just the same as if you were using a separate controller and computer for VSTs) This was never implemented on OAS as while you could change the channels on Midi sounds, (No auto assignment though) the VST sound channels were fixed, on the flip side full control of cc (Spread over manual and sound controllers in OAX) was available via VST edit, but only fixed cc were available for midi sounds.
    This has always been a downside of Wersi, as Bohm had more advanced midi features than this in the 90s.

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  • 01/22/2019 at 18:24
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    The ” sound neu senden” button sends the configuration after you change the settings in the routing, manual controller or sound controller. This is good when you are using an external device. Instead of having to save the setup then see if it is configure correctly you just hit that button and it sends it. If you don’t have something set correctly you just make a change and send it again. Once you know your settings are correct then you can save the setup. It’s definitely coming in handy while I’m programming my AudioStation.

    Jerry

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    • 01/23/2019 at 06:35
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      Good point Jerry – I agree and have used it many times. I’ll make a point of showing that.

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  • 01/18/2019 at 05:38
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    Thanks Jerry, that confirms what Curt and I were thinking.
    Jeff

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  • 01/17/2019 at 15:21
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    Hi Curt,

    Yes, it looks like the VST sounds are created in a different way to the midi out sounds, but we can use the VST routing menu to change their parameters. I’ve had a look at the Programming Manual that you referred to, and the screenshot for the VST routing menu shows a control for the midi channel that looks the same as that for the midi out sounds. So I think you are right, it could handle both dynamic and fixed assignments. I got a slightly different translation of the note accompanying the screenshot, “You can also assign a fixed MIDI channel to a tone”. By ‘tone’ I think they mean ‘sound’. So that would seem to confirm that we have both options. We will be able to check this out later when you have a VST sound installed.

    Jeff

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  • 01/16/2019 at 16:05
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    Hi Curt,
    Thanks, that’s quite clear now. I just wanted to be sure that the operating instructions I’m writing for assigning external midi channels were correct.
    With regard to the assignment of VST midi channels, I guess what I’m wondering is if we follow the same procedure for creating a VST sound as that for a midi out sound, but select the ‘VST Sounds’ option rather than the ‘MIDI Out’ option, do we see a similar menu to that for the midi sounds. In particular is there a midi channel button, and if so can this be set to either the sys mode or to a fixed channel number. Or is it like we see for the internal sounds where the channel number is assigned dynamically and we don’t know what it is. This is quite fundamental because if we don’t have both assignment modes, I know of some applications that we just can’t control.

    Jeff

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    • 01/17/2019 at 11:38
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      Jeff – Not sure if this will change our results or not but we will attempt as time allows. Currently, we don’t have any VST’s installed at the OAX level. So far we are not able to create a VST sound despite the option showing up. The question at this point – Is OAX smart enough to know that and as a result, I can’t create a new VST sound?

      At some point, I’ll install a VST and report if that behavior changes. For now, I’m only able to create “MIDI Out” sound.

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      • 01/17/2019 at 11:49
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        Let me add a little more to my comment above. When all else fails “RTM” (Read The Manual). I found the following comment in the VST section of the OAX 2.x Programming Manual:

        Note: In routing the value MIDI CHANNEL still appears. As the default, the value SYS is set with a number between 1 and 16th This setting means that the OAX system itself manages the MIDI channels. but you can assign a tone and a fixed MIDI channel.

        That implies that we will have the option to control MIDI channel info on a VST sound – Thoughts?

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    • 01/17/2019 at 22:24
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      I am running mostly my own sounds on my OAX1 using Kontakt. Yes there is a midi channel button on the VST screen. I think the screens are exactly the same for both VST and Midi.

      Jerry

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  • 01/16/2019 at 11:10
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    Hi Curt,

    I’m much enjoying your current MIDI videos. I just have a couple of questions relating to MIDI channel allocation for the OAX version of the HD Series Upgrade Manual that I’m writing.

    1) All your videos show an active sound on the upper manual when selecting the ‘Sounds’ option to display the Soundlist menu. So in order to create a new external MIDI sound, do we need to have a sound active in the manual selector, or can we go straight to the ‘Sounds’ option with either no sounds selected or even no sounds entered at all in the manual selector?
    2) All the action seems to be taking place on the upper manual, so can we do this operation also from the lower manual or even the pedals? I’m assuming that once we have created a user sound, it’s not linked in any way to the manual on which it was created and therefore can be used on either manual or pedals.
    3) Just as a matter of interest, you’re comments on requiring ether dynamic or fixed MIDI channel allocation depending on the application are spot on. We also need this flexibility when allocating VST MIDI channels. Do we know what MIDI channel is being assigned on the VST Soundlist menu, and can this MIDI channel assignment be either dynamic or fixed?

    Jeff

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    • 01/16/2019 at 13:24
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      Jeff,
      1) If you click on Sounds, it will bring up the Sound List, but the only way I have found to get to the sound edit screens is by double-clicking on a sound already assigned. As for creating a new external MIDI sound the easiest way is to drag an empty sound from the Sound Pool and double click on it. At that point, you are in edit mode and can make whatever changes you need and save as a new user sound.
      2) It’s not a requirement to use the upper manual just where I tend to do everything. You can create/edit a sound from Upper, Lower or Pedal. You are also correct any sound can be assigned anywhere.
      3) More work required on this one. When I did have a few VST’s loaded I worked with them via a user sound no different than I’ve done with external MIDI. This sounds like something we should add to the list of future videos! 🙂

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  • 01/16/2019 at 08:38
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    Your first two videos are helping me make more sense about using MIDI with OAX. Don’t know if I can get more adept at it, but it is a very good starting point.

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    • 01/16/2019 at 10:03
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      Great news Spike! We have another video coming out today where we connect up to a Ketron sound module. We plan on one or two more videos working with an external sound module and then we are going to connect up to a PC and Cakewalk and finally, we will do something with a Mac and Logic.

      Hopefully, that will give everyone a taste of some of the possibilities.

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