OAX 2.x Lower Manual Configuration?

Ouch! This sure doesn’t seem correct to us. We would love to have you watch the video below which includes the steps on how you can check the lower manual configuration on your Sonic and have you post back in the comment section your findings. Does you Sonic have the Swell pedal and/or Expression settings turned off or on? Also, what level of OAX are you running?

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16 thoughts on “OAX 2.x Lower Manual Configuration?

  • 01/22/2019 at 06:57
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    Hi Curt,

    Great video, thanks. One of the things that I’ve always liked about Wersi instruments is the ability to edit pretty well everything on the organ, and this video demonstrates that very well. For both OAS and OAX we now have the golden rule of sound editing, “Whenever you make a change, SAVE IT IN A PRESET”

    Just for information, on OAS we also have a feature called ‘Edit Sound’ which enables us to change a range of instrument specific parameters for a sound and then save this as a new user sound. Now we have two versions of the sound, the original factory version and an edited user version. So when we load the user version into a preset we will get the modified version. I tend to prefer this method as it enables us to create a number of variants of a sound directly in the sound database, and so gives us a wider range of sounds to choose from.

    From your end of video teaser it looks like we might be able to do something similar with the OAX external sounds. I’ll look forward to your upcoming video to see how this works.

    Jeff

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  • 01/19/2019 at 11:20
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    Hi Curt,
    Thanks, I’ll look forward to the results of your findings. I have a section in the OAX Upgrade Manual on setting up the external CCs. As we know, external devices and software utilise a range of CCs set up in particular ways, so I need to understand just what the Sonic is sending. I think it would be good to investigate this area too for the internal sounds. I don’t think we’ve done much as yet on editing the CC parameters of these sounds e.g. velocity and expression curves, and also the sound controls. Maybe a good topic for another Curt type video!
    Jeff

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    • 01/21/2019 at 16:27
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      Jeff, I’m going to wait a few days on this and try some things after we connect up OAX to a PC running Cakewalk. It might be easier to see the results if we have a track in record mode as we modify some of the controllers and look at the data in the event list of Cakewalk.

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  • 01/18/2019 at 11:14
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    Hi guys,

    A very interesting discussion. I have a couple of questions that relate to the overall operation of this feature.

    1) Since we get to this menu via selecting a particular sound, I would expect that any changes that we make to the Continuous Controllers (CCs) like Velocity, Expression Pedal etc. would be applicable to the selected sound, and not to the entire manual. This is how it works in OAS. We can test this by placing a number of different sounds in one of the manual selectors, selecting each in turn and setting their respective CCs to different values. Then save as total preset, recall and check that they all register their different modified values.
    2) What about the other CCs on the right of the menu like Pitch Wheel, Sustain Pedal etc. Are these linked to the sounds also. This is the case in OAS.
    3) If we repeat 1) with a number of different external sounds, do we also see the modified CCs linked to these sounds.

    In general I think it’s more accurate to refer to the offending total preset as the ‘Current’ preset rather than the ‘Last’ preset. And OAX works just the same as OAS, if you load a preset that has had changes made to these CCs, any new sounds that you place in a selector will inherent the current CCs values in the preset. So I guess the message is, we have to be on our guard when using a previously modified preset!

    Jeff

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    • 01/19/2019 at 07:57
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      Jeff – Your last comment says it all — “We have to be on our guard when using a previously modified preset!.”

      I’m making a note to myself to come back and read your comment again and try some of the things you’ve mentioned, document and share our findings.

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  • 01/18/2019 at 06:00
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    No problems by me, all boxes are checked!

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  • 01/18/2019 at 05:03
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    Curt, I just had a very quick check on my 600 running V2.0 and selected a guitar and piano on the lower manual and both showed volume and expression ticked on. I started by selecting a ‘clean’ preset which initially just has oax spectra selected, and added two more voices to the lower manual.

    Geoff.

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    • 01/18/2019 at 05:50
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      Hello Geoff, hello Curt,

      That is because you started with a (clean) Preset, where all the Boxes are ticked on for Upper and Lower Manuals.

      Selecting another Sound does not change the status of the Boxes.

      If you tick some Boxes off, and resave that as a new Preset, then whenever you recall that newly saved Preset, the Boxes will be shown in the Status “Off”.
      Selecting another Sound will NOT change the Boxes to Status “ON”.

      So, the Status of the Boxes is dependet on the last recalled Preset, AND NOT BY THE SOUND.

      Hope this clear things a bit up.

      Regards,
      Carlo

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      • 01/18/2019 at 06:48
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        This says it all – “the Status of the Boxes is dependent on the last recalled Preset, AND NOT BY THE SOUND.” Correction is coming shortly.

        Thanks again Carlo.

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  • 01/17/2019 at 15:46
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    Hi Curt,

    It is because the last recalled Preset was saved with Velocity and Swell Settings turned off for the Lower Sound.
    Choosing another Sound on Lower will not re-activate those Velocity and Swell Settings.

    Again, re-save the Preset with the Boxes thicked on.
    Or recall a Preset where the Velocity and Swell Settings are Active.

    Regards,
    Carlo

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    • 01/18/2019 at 06:47
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      Carlo – You are 100% right. We have found the problem and it’s ME! I’ll have a correcting video out later this morning to clear this issue up.

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  • 01/17/2019 at 15:13
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    Hello Curt,

    This is fully normal, as the Swell, Expression and other Settings are saved/recalled by the Total Preset.
    Simply turn them on again, and save the Preset.

    Regards,
    Carlo

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    • 01/17/2019 at 15:37
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      Hmm – Not sure I agree as I’m not using a preset. I should be able to randomly select a sound on the lower manual (without using a preset) and expect it to “follow” the expression pedal. Agree?

      I’ll go back and take a look at preset settings and verify that I didn’t mess up something in that configuration.

      Thanks for your feedback, Carlo.

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