OAX 2.60-01 Question

We received a note from Barry after he upgraded to OAX 2.60-01, concerned that some sounds may have gone missing. He did send us screenshots of the Flute section, and when comparing to our Sonic, they matched up.

I’ve included screenshots of the four screens displayed when you touch the Flute button over on the right-hand side of the console. Note the “—” that shows up on the various screens. That may be perfectly normal.

Out of interest for anyone that is also running 2.60-01, could you take a look at the Flute section and see if you have the same results?

OAX_Flute_1
OAX_Flute_2
OAX_Flute_3
OAX_Flute_4

40 thoughts on “OAX 2.60-01 Question

  • 01/07/2020 at 00:36
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    Hi I have a Ketron SD40 MIDI connected to my OAX800, since the update of V2.60 -1 and the upgraded audio driver I am experiencing latency when using the Ketron. I never had this problem before the upgrades. Does anybody else out there that has some sort of MIDI controller connected to their OAX have this problem?
    I never had a issue before the updates.
    Please advise.
    Thanks

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    • 01/07/2020 at 08:27
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      Go into device manager, right click the audio driver and use the roll back option (To get back to the previous driver) to see if this fixes the problem. (Don’t forget to re-start the OS when you have done this)

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      • 01/07/2020 at 17:48
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        Hi there Bill,
        I have had a look at Device Manager – Audio drivers, they are listed in two different areas.
        1. Audio inputs and outputs = Eingang (WERSI USI WDM 2.9.95.2) and Lautsprecher (WERSI( USI WDM 2.9.95.2)
        2. Sound Video and game controllers.
        All seem to be active but not sure how to roll back to the old driver? I can Disable device or delete Can you please provide full details of this procedure please.
        Prior to this update I had an on going problem since purchase where the OAX would boot up but no sound. Since this update I have had no further issues, thank God.
        Thanks a lot.

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        • 01/08/2020 at 03:47
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          Right click the driver in Device manager and select properties, then select the driver tab, and finally click the roll back button. (Don’t forget to re-start when finished)
          To be honest unless you are fully aware on how OAX & the OS works, it is best to leave well alone unless instructed by a Wersi engineer. (Note: if you decide to install the new driver again, make sure you un-install the old driver first (Don’t just update it) otherwise you may run into problems)

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    • 01/07/2020 at 09:07
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      Ross – I like Bill’s idea. If you do that let us know if that fixed the issue?

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    • 01/09/2020 at 20:20
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      I am running the Hammond B-3X on my AudioStation Mini via midi out from my OAX1. I have the new audio driver installed. Not having any latency issues.

      Jerry

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      • 01/10/2020 at 14:56
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        Thank you Jerry that’s very interesting, mine was fine before the latest update. I have also discovered another issue MIDI OUT 1 is not working?

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        • 01/11/2020 at 09:09
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          Ross – We has issues with MIDI ports early on with our Sonic. We ended up replacing the board that contains all of the MIDI connections. Uli connected up via Teamviewer to figure out that was the issue.
          https://youtu.be/sjaUkY8XDhQ

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          • 01/11/2020 at 17:06
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            Hi Curt yes I also had issues and have already replaced my MIDI board, but with all of the other problems I have had going on, I have not spent any time back using the Ketron. At last the OAX is now working and there now seems be some reliability.
            The Ketron has remained connected during this time, I have rechecked connections etc. Now I can only access the premium voice presets with latency and my stored GM voices on the OAX will not play, nor if I load new GM voices will they play? It just seems to go from one problem after another, I was wondering if the issues are related to the last update or the new audio driver. I will have to contact Uli later in the week.

          • 01/12/2020 at 10:36
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            Ross, I just tried a quick test. It might not be that useful to you as I have not installed the new driver, but I am running 2.60-1. I suppose it’s possible, but I’m not sure that the audio driver is part of the MIDI signal path?

            Both MIDI ports working fine with no latency in our case. This test was done with SD-90. I was able to access both GM and as you say “premium” voices from OAX. I also tried controlling a Ketron style from OAX. One last test was to record a few bars into Logic and no issues. All worked as expected.

            What MIDI settings are configured on your SD-40? Maybe they have changed?

            I don’t recall if you are running a Mac or a PC? It might be worth installing a MIDI monitor so you can take a look at what the MIDI data looks like that is coming out of OAX? Super handy to verify what you think you are doing is really what is being sent between the devices.

            We are running on a Mac and use “MIDI Monitor” (https://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/). It has been very helpful to debug MIDI issues. There are similar utilities available if you are running on a PC. Matter of fact, OAX ships with MIDI-OX installed. http://www.midiox.com

  • 12/30/2019 at 12:14
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    I am running V2.60-01; however, my Windows/Sound devices are (WERSI USI WDM 2.9.63) on both the Input and Output. I am following the email’s admonition to NOT install 2.9.95.2 located at c:\InstallWersi\Audiodriver. Everything seems to work on the older driver.

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  • 12/24/2019 at 21:58
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    That would be english version of the manuals for 2.60

    Thanks
    Bill

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  • 12/24/2019 at 21:56
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    Hi and Merry Christmas all: anybody have a english version of 2.60?

    Thanks

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  • 12/24/2019 at 12:27
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    Hi Folks, I have been reading many of your comments on the new sonic upgrades. Although I don’t have a Sonic myself, I am the one who made many of the sets of vintage organ samples from my Helios and a Hammond H100 which a friend of mine owns. They sound fine in the OAS Abacus so I hope the new firmware upgrades solve the sound quality problems many of you faced with OAX. I can confirm that the samples themselves shouldn’t have sound quality issues other than the usual shortcomings of analog sound such as minor background noise.

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  • 12/22/2019 at 12:46
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    On a different note. Has anybody loaded the new audio driver? I had already loaded some of my own samples under 2.60. Then 2.60-01 came out with a new audio driver. I updated to the new driver and there is certainly a big difference in sound quality on my uploaded samples. Don’t know about the factory sounds because I wasn’t working with any of them before the update. I like it a lot.

    Jerry

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    • 12/22/2019 at 13:22
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      Jerry, what was the procedure for installing the new driver. Is it just a matter of replacing the old file with the new one and rebooting?

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      • 12/23/2019 at 09:21
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        It is a executable file so you just double click it and it installs the new driver.

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    • 12/23/2019 at 08:01
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      Interesting. We were not happy with the samples that we loaded. I might have to follow your lead and see if the updated driver improves things for us.

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    • 12/27/2019 at 03:53
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      ¡Audio -driver problem!.¡Be careful!

      Helo, I am Ramón, from Spain. Sorry for my english.

      Just updated with OAX 2.60_01 and new Audio Driver.

      Some sounds are more quality than before, overall the Hammond B4 module.

      But I had a big problem, The wave sound is not working, you can play wave files, but no sound appear.
      you can save audios playing, but if you play it, you can not hear it.

      The same with the system sound in windows 10, no sound from youtube or spotify.

      I tried first downgrade to OAX version 2.50_01with clean installation, but not fixed, after that I have downgrade the Audio driver to the last version, and not fixed the problem.

      Anyone with the same problem?

      Regards.
      (Happy Merry Christmas)

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      • 12/27/2019 at 04:34
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        Welcome Ramon
        You should not really be using the internet with your Sonic except for downloading updates and allowing Wersi to remote access your instrument for fault tracing.
        As to your problem, close OAX, tap the start button, select settings, system, sound and make sure that the Wersi USB driver is selected in the drop down box at the top, when it is, close the window and re-start you instrument, you should then be good to go.

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          • 12/30/2019 at 00:48
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            Curt, Bill, Jeff.

            Thanks to all of you, I have already fixed the problem. I think the issue was because not uninstall the previous version driver before to install the new one.
            Is great to know that The OAX Support team is watching our comments on this forum, they sent to me the next email and a PDF file with the driver install instructions in english. (I don’t know how to upload the file to this forum):

            “we saw your comments / questions about version 2.60-01 and the new driver in the WERSI USA forum.

            About your problem:
            In the Windows area under Sound System Settings there is an incorrect assignment with which device audio is to be played. Correctly, this must be -> WERSI USI WDM.

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            New Audio-Driver
            We had issued the following note for the new audio driver. Find it under Settings and UPDATE-History.

            “If you experience problems with your instrument, you can update the AUDIO driver. Audio driver 2.9.95.2 is located at c:\InstallWersi\Audiodriver.
            Please carry out the update only on instructions and support by your WERSI dealer or the WERSI head office.”

            Did you uninstall the old audio driver before installing the new driver?

            Attached are the installation instructions for the Driver Update.

            Incidentally, the audio driver cannot change any sounds in the system. The audio driver connects the WERSI audio board via USB to Windows. The AD converters on the WERSI Audio board are then decisive for the audio quality of the entire instrument. And we use very high quality ICs there.

            On the other hand, there is WERSI sound system, which only works on software without hardware.

            We wish you a great year 2020.

            WERSI OAX Team”

  • 12/21/2019 at 10:07
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    Hi Geoff and Bill.

    Thanks for the clarifying information on the GM sounds.

    It remains a mystery to me as to why Wersi didn’t adopt the same strategy as they did with OAS and copy these sounds into the instrument maps. It makes it much easier to have all the related sounds in one place rather than having to faff around getting them from different sources. I would definitely recommend Sonic owners implement this mapping to produce a more complete sound set. Although the GM sounds are more basic in the sense that they generally have only one sound per instrument, the quality is good. So those who dislike the mangled sounds produced by a previous OAX update might find these preferable.

    I agree with you Geoff about the sounds in the database. It’s the same with OAS, there are many more sounds in there than in the mappings. It’s always a good idea to spend time rooting around in the database as almost certainly there will be sounds in there that you never knew existed. And of course any of these that are deemed useful can be copied to the relevant instrument maps.

    Jeff

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  • 12/19/2019 at 09:41
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    Hi Curt,

    Thanks for that, it’s good to know that the pub does indeed have beer! I couldn’t imagine that Wersi wouldn’t have included the GM sounds in the database.

    On the OAS models all the GM sounds are mapped to the standard factory settings in their respective instrument groups. If Wersi haven’t done this on the Sonic then you might want to suggest that they include this in the next OAX update. Meanwhile as we say, Sonic owners can do this manually and then they will have the full set of sounds available.

    I don’t think we’ve covered sound mapping previously either to a user or a factory mapping, so perhaps a short video on this might be useful.

    The following link list all the sounds in the GM Level 1 sound set together with the instrument groups they should be mapped to, so there’s lots of extra goodies here.

    https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/gm-level-1-sound-set

    Jeff

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    • 12/20/2019 at 10:29
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      Jeff,

      I don’t have access to our Sonic for a couple of weeks so I’m saying this from memory. I **might** recall a GM group with all the various GM sounds included … I might not! I do know that it’s easy enough to map a GM sound so it’s readily available to use.

      Perhaps someone that is sitting at a Sonic can go into the “Sounds” menu and look at the various groups and see if I remember the GM category correctly?

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      • 12/20/2019 at 13:43
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        There doesn’t appear to be a GM group, but by selecting ALL sounds and sorting them alphabetically it’s possible to scroll down to GM and see the complete list of 128 GM sounds.

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        • 12/20/2019 at 13:55
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          Probably worth mentioning that there are many more sounds in the sound list than there are shown on the mapping buttons. As an example Acoustic Guitar has 51 mapped sounds but around 90 in the sound list. Many of these are designed for accompaniment but can be selected to play directly from the keys.

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        • 12/21/2019 at 04:17
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          All GM Sounds are still in Bank 089, just switch to order sounds by number in the database rather than name.

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  • 12/18/2019 at 12:02
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    Successful install of V2.60-01. I, too, have the same Flute screens.

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  • 12/18/2019 at 11:43
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    Hi guys

    Looking at the mapping for the flute sound set, there should be four different types of sounds in there.

    1) OAX sounds (e.g. Flute Transverse 1)
    2) OAS sounds (e.g. Flute Vibrato)
    3) Expansion Package sounds (e.g. KW Flute)
    4) GM sounds (e.g. GM Flute)

    We appear to be missing the GM Sound Set. This is what we should have.

    GM Flute
    GM Piccolo
    GM Panflute
    GM Ocarina
    GM Recorder
    GM Shakuhachi
    GM Whistle
    GM Blown Bottle

    It may be that these are mapped in the other instrument groups, so it’s worth having a look at these. If not, then check for them in the sounds database. If they are there you can manually install them in the flute mapping. I think it would also be a good idea to check the other instrument groups for their equivalent GM sounds (e.g. GM Trumpet in the Brass group).

    If none of these are in the sounds database then ask for your money back. The GM sounds are fairy basic compared to the long wave samples, but even so, an organ without a GM sounds set is worse than a pub with no beer!

    Jeff

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    • 12/19/2019 at 08:07
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      Hey Jeff,

      Just to follow up on your comment. The GM sounds are in fact in the database should folks want to map them.

      On a side note, Wersi has been watching this thread and reached out to me to confirm there are no changes in Flute sounds available.

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  • 12/18/2019 at 10:56
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    fine so everything is ok and nothing is missing !!! regards Kai

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  • 12/17/2019 at 15:02
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    Thanks to everyone that responded and helping Barry out with his question. Even you Bill! 😃

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    • 12/18/2019 at 11:31
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      Bill is a great man. Thanks to him my organ is adapted to a very good sound system which I am happy up to the sky : the Adam A7X&Sub7 !
      Samuel

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  • 12/17/2019 at 11:51
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    My four flute screens match!

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  • 12/17/2019 at 09:42
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    Yes, mine agrees with the pictures. That’s four of us!

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  • 12/17/2019 at 05:06
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    Hi Curt,
    Yesterday I’ve just upgraded my Sonic 600 to the last version 2.60-01 from my old version…….….1.50 ! ! !
    Compared to my Sonic the 4 screens look identical.
    Pleased I can finally a little participate to the discussions and help even for minor things.
    Samuel

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    • 12/17/2019 at 08:12
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      Thanks, Samuel – That makes three of us that have the same config. Welcome to the 2.6x club! 🙂

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