OAS / OAX Sound Demo – Tune#4

Next up in our OAS – OAX comparison project? Amboss-Polka.

Same as before:

  1. OAS version is first.
  2. Next, the OAX version using the MIDI file with the levels as set by OAS.
  3. And then the OAX version with minor volume changes to the MIDI file. As we have all noticed on the others clearly a difference in the drum samples. I also notice quite a difference in the Marimba playing portions of the melody.

 

For reference, here are the volume levels in the MIDI file before and after the changes that I made on OAX:

Ambobpolka_NoMix
Ambobpolka_NoMix
Ambobpolka_ReMix
Ambobpolka_ReMix

12 thoughts on “OAS / OAX Sound Demo – Tune#4

  • 01/14/2018 at 11:57
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    • 01/14/2018 at 12:04
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      Hey Betty – Welcome, glad you joined us!

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  • 01/13/2018 at 06:06
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    Sorry, but I’m starting to wonder, or the adjust from the volumes in the midi files not a consistent error in the OAX series is.
    Can not imagine myself, that this is only necessary with midi files from the OAS series.
    That will probably also be necessary with other midi files made with other instruments.
    Midi is midi, a control change for the volume = Controller nummer 7 and is instelbaar van 0 – 128.
    Each step of 0 – 128 needs a fixed volume, according to the midi protocol.
    It seems that concerning to the volume settings, the OAX selection does not follow this MIDI protocol exactly.
    When I play a Midi file from e.g. a Yamaha or sequenze of any instrument with my Wersi Verona, I never have to adjust volumes, balance or delay or whatever.
    Everything sounds the way the music designer intended it.

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    • 01/13/2018 at 06:34
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      John, Consider this. Let’s just pick French Horn as an example. As far as I know, there is no standard for a volume level when creating a sample. Let’s assume that in OAS the sample is saved at a volume level of 55. If the French Horn sample is stored at a volume level of 67 in OAX (or Yamaha, Roland, etc.) the playback of any MIDI file selecting French Horn will play back at a different volume level regardless of the Controller 7 or 11 setting in the track playing the French Horn part.

      I suspect that is what is happening here.

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      • 01/13/2018 at 09:36
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        I really thought that there was a standard for sampling sounds, otherwise you can never play a midifile of another directly on your instrument, I never have to set volumes and I have thousands of midi files the volume is on my Wersi Wega, Wersi Verona, and my Yamaha PSR-E453 Deluxe, and even my PC always the same.

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    • 01/13/2018 at 08:40
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      If they are standard Midi files, then yes, they will have the same balance on all instruments that follow the GM Midi specs, (This includes both OAS & OAX) however the Midi files supplied with OAS are not standard Midi files, as they use various instruments (Not just GM voices) and are balanced by Wersi to show off the instrument.

      Bill

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  • 01/13/2018 at 04:55
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    As with all previous tunes the clarity and positioning of OAX leaves OAS way behind, all of which gives a more realistic sound, (Although sometimes nor as much as you expect) this time though there seems to be a pattern emerging, in that the drums of OAX (Which have been re-done) are so far ahead of OAS Drums that comparison is pointless, the 2nd point is that the sounds that are the most changed in the OAX demos so far, are the GM sounds, which are quite a bit better, however the other sounds are less so.

    Bill

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    • 01/13/2018 at 06:14
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      Sorry Bill, but I get the same clarity through adjustments to the midi files in my Verona and there is hardly any difference to be heard, but he / she who played the sesquenze had a certain sound in mind and the OAX changed that. My opinion is that the volume difference also affects the sharpness and clarity.

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      • 01/13/2018 at 08:41
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        If you are listening on the Verona speakers then you will not hear a difference, as the inbuilt speakers are of very poor quality, (It’s impossible to get any decent clarity or separation) however use quality external speakers, or play the tunes on a quality audio system, (NOT an all in one) then the differences stand out.

        Bill

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        • 01/13/2018 at 09:40
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          I use the Wersi Vocalis speakers, never the interne speakers of the Verona.

          john

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    • 01/13/2018 at 06:24
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      There is clearly a difference in the drums. Maybe as time permits I’ll mute all tracks except for drums from one of these files and upload just those two tracks, and we can all take a listen.

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      • 01/13/2018 at 14:26
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        DUH! I was just about ready to do this until I realized while I have the MIDI file I have no way to record drums only from OAS… 🙁

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