MIDI and OAX??

Our good friend Ross sent us a note asking about MIDI and OAX. As you may / may not not know, just about everything on your Sonic is based on some type of MIDI communication.  99.9% of that is hidden from you. Where it starts to get interesting is when you decide to start working with one of my favorites (adding VST’s to your Sonic) or running physical cables to some external MIDI device. In my case that was a Roland Integra 7 sound module. It worked just fine and we went over a very basic config in this video.

In Ross’s case, he is working with a Ketron SD-40 . While Ross and I are off trading emails on getting that to work (hopefully), it brings up a good question. How much interest would folks have in a video or two and starting some discussions on what you can / can’t do with the current OAX MIDI implementation on OAX?

Post your comments and thoughts below. I’ve rearranged my studio (many times) over the past 6 months and currently I don’t have anything connected to my Sonic via MIDI. Doesn’t mean that I can’t, but currently, we don’t have an external MIDI config up and running to test / learn / share “stuff” on.

Any other Sonic owners running external MIDI devices? Is this a topic that others are interested in and would like to explore in more detail?

**Updated 11/03/17 – Based on feedback and overall interest we started a MIDI topic here.

30 thoughts on “MIDI and OAX??

  • 11/04/2017 at 07:54
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    Hello All,
    I’m very interesting how to make the right intern midi adjustments for the SD40 and also on the Sonic 600 Ls.
    I ‘m purchased a new Ketron SD40 ………..
    But lucky me, I have read, there are many specialist here .
    I hope there is any one they can give me the right information’s how to do that on the right way with the right instructions?
    Or is on this theme a video planned…. (?)
    Kind regards,
    Kayo (NL)

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    • 11/04/2017 at 08:27
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      If I had a Ketron or even access to one for a few weeks I’d be happy to put together a few videos on connecting and using with OAX. While I can review the Ketron manual and comment nothing like really pushing a button to see what happens and if it actually works as described in the manual! 🙂

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      • 11/06/2017 at 14:05
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        Curt,

        You should contact the manufacturer, point them at this website and ask for an evaluation unit to review. In most cases if a manufacturer can ascertain that your evaluation is genuine, they will oblige. I do it all the time.

        Cheers
        Mark

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  • 11/03/2017 at 11:28
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    I have an Ikarus, a Pegasus, and a Korg Triton. I would love to try to midi them together
    since each have some different and significant sounds. I am still OAS. OAX
    may come in the future.

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    • 11/04/2017 at 08:30
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      Out of interest Jerry which keyboard would use as the “controller”, meaning the one you would actually play from?

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      • 11/06/2017 at 09:48
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        I want to use the Ikarusas as the controller since I have most of my MIDIs loaded there.
        I also have a Scala which is a different room.
        The Scala is creating “phantom static” when I play along with a MIDI file.
        I am told that the processor is getting too much input in the background.
        The “C” drive is about 80% full.
        I am also told that the Scala is about 15 years old. I purchased it about 6 years ago
        from Ralph and Chris did some extra things to it.

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  • 11/03/2017 at 11:25
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    Hi, y’all.

    I have an Ikarus, Pegasus, and a Korg Triton and have never tried to midi them together.
    I would like some suggestions even though I am still in OAS. OAX May come in the future.

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  • 11/03/2017 at 06:06
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    Hi Curt

    The SD40 should be set up the same as the Roland BK7 (Organ mode) with Midi control switched on, you can then use the SD40 sounds as if they were part of OAX, (Including with the styles on OAX) but you will still need to use the SD40 to control the on-board styles. (Once you have made all the connections it should be a 5 – 10 minute job to get everything up and running, with the rest being set up as you go along)
    NOTE: Ketron (And Roland) style compatibility is due in the next OAX update, by (As I understand it) a special OAX version of EMC styleworks.

    Bill

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    • 11/03/2017 at 15:41
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      Hi Bill can you feed me any more in depth tips. When you say midi control do you mean Wersi sys(1)?
      Thanks

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      • 11/04/2017 at 10:40
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        HI Ross

        Set up OAX and SD40 in exactly the same way that Curt connected his Integra, and use it exactly the same as Curt did, (This will allow you to play the sounds of the SD40 as if they were built into OAX) then use the style controls on the SD40 to play the Ketron styles. (You will need to set Midi Control to on in the SD40 so it will accept all the CC codes that the Wersi can send and also make sure Multi-Mode is selected so that all 16 channels can be accessed) NOTE: you can also use the SD40 to control the OAX sounds which could be handy for the styles, but we are probably jumping too far ahead there.

        Get used to this setup for a while, until you are happy in selecting sounds and creating pre-sets that use these sounds, then we can move on to more advanced settings. (Learn to walk before you try to run)

        Let me know when you are happy with the above, and I will put something together about assigning and using CC codes to control the parameters on the SD40 so that they operate just like the manual controllers in OAX. (Assuming the instructions in the OAX manual have been implemented by Wersi)

        Have fun

        Bill

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        • 11/05/2017 at 12:08
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          Ross,

          I suspect you are busy with your pedalboard modifications but just curious if you made any progress with the Ketron based on Bill’s comments above?

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          • 11/05/2017 at 15:05
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            Hi Curt, no its still in bits I am a bout to see if all will fit after the mods, hopefully will be completed today, it hasn’t been a simple a job,

  • 11/03/2017 at 04:58
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    Anything to do with MIDI would be interesting. I currently have an Integra 7 connected but only used the settings that you shown us. Also thinking about obtaining a V3-Theatre Organ in a Box, plus I have Cubase 8.5 with the VST 3 instruments set.
    On another note, can the CC drawbar be used to control anything I hate a stop that just sits there!

    Regards,
    Derek…..

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    • 11/04/2017 at 09:18
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      Derek – I have wondered more than once why we have CC drawbar. Along with that the other drawbars have the label “assignable” or some wording close to that yet – Nothing can be assigned to them as far as I know. One would think the CC drawbar and the others could be mapped to MIDI controllers in support of working with other MIDI devices, for example, like your Integra or the Ketron that a few folks have mentioned in this thread.

      Perhaps in some future update?

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    • 11/03/2017 at 06:39
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      Ross – Check out Bill’s comments above. Sounds like exactly what you want to do. Update us on where you are at?

      In the meantime I’m going to dust off a couple of articles on basic MIDI I wrote years ago and get them posted.

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  • 11/02/2017 at 17:09
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    I’m currently considering buying a Roland Fantom XR. The reason for this is that a company in the UK, Total Transformation Technology, have sampled the Blackpool Tower Wurlitzer and sell the samples to go with the Fantom. My other passion apart from playing the Wersi, is ballroom dancing and my wife and I often dance at the Tower and love the sound of the Wurlitzer. So I’m hoping that linking it up to the Sonic shouldn’t be too much of a problem, but I need to do some reading up on the Fantom before I make a decision.

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    • 11/03/2017 at 05:55
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      Hi Geoff

      Wersi were the first manufacture to sample the Blackpool Wurlitzer, (And originally had the sole rights to them (Hence for a time TTT had to drop the Wurlitzer name on their sample set) and while never used in OAS, they are supposed to be included with OAX, so you may find you are just duplicating sounds with the TTT card, so double check before purchasing.

      Bill

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      • 11/03/2017 at 08:02
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        Hi Geoff

        They are there ok. Go to Sounds, Church, Theatre, then Blackpool.

        Ken

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        • 11/03/2017 at 08:55
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          Nice – Learn something new everyday! Never noticed the “Blackpool” option at the bottom of the screen. Some nice sounds!

          Thanks Ken!

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        • 11/03/2017 at 09:25
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          Hi Ken,

          I have tried the Blackpool sounds in OAX, and I previously had them with OAS, but never really impressed with them, but I think the TTT software includes many more samples. Check out John Bowdlers YouTube video. https://youtu.be/s7BKVJSuS1M
          Although these are on a V3sound module, they are the same sounds on the Fantom.

          Geoff.

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    • 11/03/2017 at 12:42
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      Hi Geoff,

      I own TTT with my partner Reg Rawlings I am also a fan of Wersi having built a Helios
      and Bass Synthesizer and play an Abacus Duo Pro Portable, we are currently programming
      a new module which has been designed in Switzerland for us and hope to bring it to
      market by, or before May 2018 this will be a far better buy than a Fantom, it will also
      have all of our Theatre samples plus many more on board sounds, in total 1200.

      Keep an eye on our site and feel free to contact Reg or myself via the site.

      Regards

      Dave Woods.

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      • 11/03/2017 at 13:46
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        Hi Dave and Reg – It’s an honor to have you join us. Please keep us posted as your new module gets closer to coming online. Sounds very interesting!

        Curt

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        • 11/03/2017 at 18:22
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          Hi Curt,

          Believe me the pleasure is all mine, you do a fantastic job promoting Wersi and
          sorting out problems which Wersi should have done in the first place, Wersi have
          a lot to thank you for as do your followers, looking forward to reading your posts
          on midi, you have a down to earth approach which people can easily understand,
          that is why you are so well liked, your video presentations should be taken up by
          Wersi, very professional, if ever Reg and I can be of any help just say the word.

          Dave.

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      • 11/04/2017 at 05:18
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        Hi Dave,

        I have been in contact with Reg yesterday. The new module sounds interesting. Look forward to hearing more about it.

        Geoff

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