MIDI Configuration for 2 Keyboards and Multiple Sounds

SD40 MIDI Configuration

In the last video, we showed a basic MIDI configuration that allowed us to play our SD40 using the upper keyboard of our Sonic. During the next couple of videos, we are going to show you some changes to the MIDI setup on both the SD40 and our Sonic that will enable us to play on both the upper and lower keyboard and also turn on and off multiple sounds (voices) on the SD40. In part 1 we look at setting additional MIDI channels up on the Ketron SD40.

Other videos on this topic:

  1. Basic cable connections
  2. An Overview of the SD40 Front Panel
  3. Basic MIDI setup  OAX / Ketron
  4. User Sounds to Control SD40 (Part2 of 3)
  5. Does All This MIDI Stuff Work? (Part3 of 3)

13 thoughts on “MIDI Configuration for 2 Keyboards and Multiple Sounds

  • 08/25/2018 at 10:38
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    Hi Michael,
    Good to hear that you have Ernest up and running with Hauptwerk. Just out of interest, I have a couple of questions relating to the implementation of Hauptwerk on the Sonic, and in particular the potential for operating the virtual instrument in the same way as the actual instrument.

    1) In installations where there are more manuals on the virtual instrument than there are keyboards on the Sonic (as would be the case with the four manual Hereford Cathedral organ), we need to be able to map the 2/3 Sonic keyboards to any combination of two manuals on the virtual organ. Also we need to be able to dynamically reconfigure this assignment as we move from total preset to total preset to replicate the way an organist would move to a different combination of manuals on the actual instrument.

    2) It’s convenient to link any stop combinations set up on the virtual instrument to the total presets on the Sonic, rather than selecting them from the touchscreen display, and hence operate these from the thumb pistons on the Sonic console. Again as we move from total preset to total preset we should be able to select a new stop combination with these thumb pistons as we would do on the actual instrument.

    Both of these are possible on OAS instruments using the external MIDI system and an external processor, so I feel sure the same can be accomplished on OAX instruments. Chapter 5 of the Upgrade Manual for the Wersi HD Series gives details of how I have done this for the OAS models.

    http://www.wersiorganshowcase.com/upgrademanual.html

    Have you been able to implement something similar for the OAX models?

    Regards
    Jeff

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  • 06/25/2018 at 17:04
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    Happy me! I’m in the process of purchasing a refurbished Golden Gate + from a German WERSI organ service man. My next project is getting it integrated with my WERSI GALA electronics, bringing that instrument back to life after 5 years of dormancy. A shout-out to the language translation software making this possible!

    I too am enjoying VTO via Hauptwerk–have Wurlitzer (Paramount sample sets) 320 and 332 played through 2-manual Technics organ driven by HP touch screen laptop with MS OS-8. These sample sets are fairly dry, without reverberation. Any discussion threads about using Reaper software as a host for Hauptwerk to enable satisfying, auditorium-like reverb are welcome?

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    • 06/26/2018 at 05:58
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      Karl – Sounds like you will be busy and quite a project you are taking on. Sure, we welcome any discussion topics here, or you can join us over on our other site – https://immusic.co

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  • 06/24/2018 at 04:06
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    Hi,
    I am trying to set up an OAX 1000 Pergammon for a friend to transmit MIDI to a PC to run a high spec Hauptwerk instrument. Thanks to your wonderful videos I have been able to assign suitable MIDI channels to the three keyboards and pedals but, at the minute, the PC is not seeing any MIDI at all from the expression pedal. Are you able to tell me how to make the Wersi expression pedal to transmit MIDI data?
    Hope you can help,
    Michael.

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    • 06/24/2018 at 09:10
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      Michael, I just tested this using our Ketron SD40 to be sure it worked. It should be the same for the configuration you are setting up. On the user sound(s) that you created look at the four boxes in the middle of the screen. One box is labeled Expression and one is labeled Volume. Make sure they are both checked.

      In the quick test that I did, I found that I did have to check edit sound box the first time I clicked on the checkboxes to get them to work. After that, I was able to check/uncheck them. I tried both of them and as you might expect the expression checkbox enabled the expression pedal and the volume checkbox enabled the volume sliders up on the left side of the organ.

      It’s been quite awhile since I messed with Hauptwerk but one other thing you might want to check is the MIDI learn function in Hauptwerk. It will configure it to receive the needed controllers. Go to about 7:15 in the video in this post where we briefly mention that step if you are unsure about it. http://wersiclubusa.com/oax/hauptwerk-vst-install-on-oax/

      Let us know how you make out.

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      • 06/24/2018 at 15:05
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        Thanks Curt. I’ll let you know how I get on when I can next go down to see him (he’s 2 to 3 hours from me). Yes, totally happy with the Hauptwerk side of things, as I tour Hauptwerk at many of my concerts here in the UK, it was the fact no expression data was coming out of the organ at all (which I was viewing using a MIDI monitor). I was receiving expression data to the onboard Hauptwerk organ, so I knew it had to be possible!
        Thanks so much,
        Michael.

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      • 08/25/2018 at 00:35
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        Hi Curt,
        I just wanted to let you know that I spent yesterday afternoon with Ernest setting up his new VTPOs, the Paramount 332 Wurlitzer and the Hereford Cathedral Father Willis organ and both are working well, including their swell pedals thanks to your advice. Thanks so much for helping out, really appreciated.
        Michael.

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        • 08/25/2018 at 06:30
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          Great! Glad to hear you guys have everything sorted out.

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  • 05/19/2018 at 10:47
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    I have send a pdf file (Photo) with the settings you asked me, are thy wrong?

    Greetings

    Klaas

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    • 05/19/2018 at 11:19
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      Klaas,

      Yep – I got it and sent you a picture back showing a different MIDI config on the Ketron side from what you currently have configured.

      For those following along the issue is Klaas currently doesn’t have MIDI channel 12 and 13 turned on to receive data on the Ketron side.

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  • 05/19/2018 at 07:21
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    Hi Curt,

    I follow your nice video tutorial but i have a little problem. On the upper keyboard on my Wersi Sonic i have STD Midi Ext1 on channel 1, Std Midi Ext 1 on Midi channel 12 and STDMidi ext 1 on Midi channel 13.
    On the Lower keyboard Std Midi ext on Midi Channel 2.
    I have sound on the upper keyboard on STD MIDI EXT 1 on channel 1 en on the Lower keyboard the SD 40 Styles sounds and chord changes on channel 2.
    But I have no sounds on the upper midi channels 12 and 13. Can you help me…..

    Kind Regards

    Klaas

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    • 05/19/2018 at 08:04
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      Hi Klass – Sounds like you are making great progress! Can you tell me what you have configured on the Ketron side? Which Ketron are you working with? I’m assuming that’s what you are connected to from your Wersi?

      Make sure you are connected to MIDI In2 (Keyb) on the Ketron side. Also, let’s check on the MIDI channel configuration on the Ketron:

      Touch the “Menu” button
      Touch the “MIDI” Icon
      Touch “Accordion Style and Voice”
      Touch “Arranger Keyboard”
      Touch “RX”
      What MIDI Channels are active on that screen?

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      • 05/19/2018 at 10:30
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        Curt,
        Can i send you a pdf file?

        Kind Regards

        Klaas

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